I HAte This Band...

[Crusader]

So, I'm creating this thread for everyone to dump their thoughts on bands they really dislike and hate for reasons to be explained. That way, when someone brings up the fact that there's a show featuring a band you disdain, hopefully you will leave your slandering vile thoughts in here so the band promotion page will be a bit more positive. Etiam, I'll start this one off for you... Dethklok, you can explain why.

[Automatony]

Bon Jovi

[Layon]

Behemoth, because I spent 2 or 3 days trying to get what was so great with them but I couldn't. I tried Satanica, Thelma, Demigod and Zos Kia Cultus but it consisted of playing the same song on every album. Since then I have never listened to this band again and, hopefully, never will listen to them ever again.

[Crusader]

I totally get what you mean about Behemoth. Them and Children of Bodom. I just don't get it. The music is replaceable and unmemorable.

[oldcrow]

There are a lot of bands that generally annoy me that I'm not going to say I hate simply because I can see why people would enjoy them, but the short list of bands whose popularity and god-like status among fans continuously boggles my mind is

The Doors:: What the hell is the point of this band. The best of their stuff is unmoving, and the worst is downright annoying (Mister MOjo RIsin')

Pink Floyd:: I don't get it. I have tried so many times to 'get' this band, and I just don't understand. The only feeling they inspire in me is lethargy.

The Grateful Dead:: UGH. No, seriously. Fuck this band and their lame ass music. I realize they managed to get a bunch of drugged out hippies to follow them around during the sixties, but if you've ever talked to a drugged out hippie, you realize that's not that impressive. When you cut it down the only thing they wrote that's even remotely catchy is Casey Jones, and even that one gets old after about the second time you hear it.

U2:: Again, I chalk this one up to simply not getting it. I have never felt a drop of authenticity from their music.

Also: Rap...all of it. Don't care if it's Gangster rap, nerdcore, old-school, rap/rock, fuck it all. It sucks, and the fact that people continue to champion this stuff as culture is fucking depressing.

[Zombie]

The Grateful Dead:: UGH. No, seriously. Fuck this band and their lame ass music.

[Humanist Misanthrope]

Also: Rap...all of it. Don't care if it's Gangster rap, nerdcore, old-school, rap/rock, fuck it all. It sucks, and the fact that people continue to champion this stuff as culture is fucking depressing.

[Layon]

I don't even know The Grateful Dead.

It's all a matter of taste I suppose but I can only agree with the U2 thing, the other ones well, they happen to be a bit overrated at times indeed.

[Batosai]

Catastrophic technical failure at a U2 concert;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u6Eeb0YrKY

Bill Bailey is awesome.

[humanitylost]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1EKlTzEP4

That about sums it up.

[AcidDreams]

When you cut it down the only thing they wrote that's even remotely catchy is Casey Jones

New Speedway Boogie
Dire Wolf
Truckin'
Sugar Magnolia

I'm not a huge fan, but this band does have appreciable value.

[Crusader]

Well, with the edge at least he admits that without his pedals, the music would be boring. Still, you cant knock success too hard. And besides, those lads have made a 30+ year career based on his use of effects pedals, primarily the delay pedal.

Now with Pink floyd, They are a very unique band maybe not the most talented by any means, but at the time of their releases, they were doing something different. Most of their songs were jams and experimental masterpieces. That's why early on, they didn't achieve as much success as they did on latter albums such as dark side of the moon and the wall. As well, the band were pioneers of technology using everything from digital effects and consoles to using modern synthesizers and sequencers in numerous songs.

Unfortunately, today's yuppies who are into things like vintage clothing and pretending they knew of things that existed in the 70's and 80's (despite the fact that they were not born till the dreadful 90's) have fallen in love with wearing classic rock tshirts and sporting memorabilia that shows just how apt they are in the knowledge of things "vintage". Anyways, this has led to an emergence of people who say that they "love" Pink Floyd simply because they have listened to " Money" and "Another Brick in the Wall Part 2" (Not part 1 or 3.)

The proof of this was culminated one day as I was sitting on a bus, beside me was a man, probably no older than 19, who was sporting a pink floyd tattoo on his arm. It was the Prism form dark side in front of the white wall. He was talking to his friend who was professing how much he loved pink floyd and such and they both were talking about the wall and dark side. So I asked if they liked Pink Floyd, o I said okay well have a listen to this, I played bits from "One of these days" and "Pigs" They said to me, " That's not Pink Floyd, that sucks." At that moment I lost faith in the younger generations.

[Ben4Evah]

When you cut it down the only thing they wrote that's even remotely catchy is Casey Jones

New Speedway Boogie
Dire Wolf
Truckin'
Sugar Magnolia

I'm not a huge fan, but this band does have appreciable value.

Agreed. American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are solid albums. I certainly would not have followed them around the country or gone to thousands of their shows like some, but I can enjoy it which is the most important thing, i think

I've always thought Floyd was overrated but i've also never disliked them. Dark Side of the Moon is still a work in progress for me when it comes to full appreciation of it. The truth is I just can't sit through the whole thing in one sitting. Around the 5:00 minute mark in Us and Them I start to zone out, although on its own I love that song.

And while this is neither the time or place for this debate, but anyone that completely writes off all rap without any real justification of it other than that it just isn't to their taste, as you so eloquently put it, oldcrow, is speaking from ignorance.

[Big Fatty W]

Oldcrow, I agree with most of what you wrote on that post, but it hurts reading what you said about rap. It seems like you don't know much about the hip hop genre, and as Ben put it, you just wrote it off with out any real justification. And I'll be proud to champion hip hop as a culture, thank you very much. Just...not the crappy Lil wayne stuff.

Let's see, annoying bands, or bands that I hate...

Ozzy Osbourne. Look, I LOOOVE Black Sabbath, and I thought the first album of Ozzy's had one of the best guitarists in Randy Rhodes, but I'm sorry, anything Ozzy did with that band doesn't even come close to the brilliance of the first Black Sabbath album and Dio era Sabbath. I tried to get into those Ozzy albums, but it just didn't work out.

Oh, and FUCK YOU, LIL WAYNE!

[Crusader]

Well, that's because Ozzy has whored himself to the point that he is a caricature of his former self. There is no wonder anymore on if he is a satanist or if he is the son of the devil. We saw him in sweatpants on a power scooter mumbling to Sharon about her dog fucking his cat. It's more sad that he's trying to keep up the Prince of Darkness act. Besides, he kicked out Zakk Wylde. You can't do that.

As for bands I hate... I was watching Much Music today to see what the kids are listening to these days And on came these 2 bands that demonstrated why top 40 music sucks and is for twits. Faber Drive and Stereos. Youtube these two bands and find out for yourself if you are brave enough.

As for the rap comment, I gotta agree with Fatty on that one. I mean, a lot of it is crap and garbage, but the same can be said with any form of music. So before writing off a whole genre of music as crap. Take a second to try and appreciate the progression it has made from it's humble origins in the late 70's with bands like the Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and Melle mel, to where drum machines, sampling and Dj's came into prominence in the 80's with acts like Run DMC, NWA, and Biz Markie. And while there are many genres for metal, there are just as many for the hip hop and rap scene. I mean I really have no taste for the gutterall screaming metal, techy metal, or grindcore, but there are some bands that can be classified into those subgenres that I do enjoy. So the next time you want to pass off a whole genre of music, think twice, because there is more to it, than what is being made today. And for extra credit, if you would like I could go into the science of why we like different porms of music or art or dance. All these things are purely suggestive in terms of hoew are brains respond and translate each. Which is why some people may love something like jazz music and you can't stand it, but like black metal, whereas they do not..

[Humanist Misanthrope]

I can't say I'm much into rap, but I appreciate the darker and edgier varieties of it. Hell, even at its worst, it doesn't tend to be sugary bubblegum music to the core.

Maybe this will warm oldcrow over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGv_baUZfG8

EDIT - I've got another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEIi0kGNvY

[oldcrow]

Okay. What I said earlier had a little to do with my roommate playing a Jedi Mind Tricks album on repeat at absurd volumes all fucking day prior to posting, and I spoke with a little less tact than I usually do, but I still stand by the gist of it.I simply don't understand rap. In my mind the sonic character of something is the appeal of music. Rap, to me, sounds like the music is really only there as a frame for the lyrics. Not to say they're all bad lyrics either (just most of it), but without a melody or musical structure to act as the primary drive of the song, I'm left feeling cheated and annoyed.

EDIT: Oh, and I've given rap more chances than I can even count. Shit, practically every year I have an old friend come to visit who makes an attempt to convert me (who is also extremely knowledgeable on the subject). My siblings have tried, my friends in town have tried, hell, I even tried of my own accord a couple of times. I just really really dislike most of it, and the stuff that doesn't actively annoy me is unmoving.

[Big Fatty W]

Fair enough. I'd expect though, that if you gave Del tha Funkee Homosapien (Deltron 3030 album is amazing) and Hieroglyphics a chance...perhaps, you might find something to like. Just if you haven't.

[Crusader]

Well, I can understand that. In the early days of rap, it was about partying and really not giving a damn about the fact that you work long hours for peanuts because, once the weekend came and you put on your fly boots, you were the man. In the 80's it became about uniting over racial inequalities. Especially when Rodney King was beaten. Now ,for lack of a better term, it is about being a nigger. Now, I know that's gonna get some oohs and groans. But it is true. The things that artists rap about are money, how rich they are, women, partying, killing that nigger being shot by people (guess who? Niggers.) Not one aspect of their music is designed to promote social equality, sexual equality, or even make it seem like kids have a chance of making something in this world if they stay in school and try to achieve something. It's like in the Fort Minor song "cigarettes". They talk about how in rap, the singer will embellish stories and even lie completely just to make himself seem cool or more badass or Gangster, if you will. No one wants the truth they just want to sound cool. You just look at how the rappers present themselves, whether it's carrying around liquor or telling everyone that they used to sell all kinds of drugs and pimp women, and they're high all the time. They basically just have made the sole reason to get into making music about the money, not because it's something they love or because they have a message, but because of the money. Fuck, the Black Eyed Peas sold out and completely changed themselves and their act in order to make more money and reach a wider audience.

[Big Fatty W]

Well, I can understand that. In the early days of rap, it was about partying and really not giving a damn about the fact that you work long hours for peanuts because, once the weekend came and you put on your fly boots, you were the man. In the 80's it became about uniting over racial inequalities. Especially when Rodney King was beaten. Now ,for lack of a better term, it is about being a nigger. Now, I know that's gonna get some oohs and groans. But it is true. The things that artists rap about are money, how rich they are, women, partying, killing that nigger being shot by people (guess who? Niggers.) Not one aspect of their music is designed to promote social equality, sexual equality, or even make it seem like kids have a chance of making something in this world if they stay in school and try to achieve something. It's like in the Fort Minor song "cigarettes". They talk about how in rap, the singer will embellish stories and even lie completely just to make himself seem cool or more badass or Gangster, if you will. No one wants the truth they just want to sound cool. You just look at how the rappers present themselves, whether it's carrying around liquor or telling everyone that they used to sell all kinds of drugs and pimp women, and they're high all the time. They basically just have made the sole reason to get into making music about the money, not because it's something they love or because they have a message, but because of the money. Fuck, the Black Eyed Peas sold out and completely changed themselves and their act in order to make more money and reach a wider audience.

Are you speaking of hip hop in general? Because while that is true for a lot of the mainstream hip hop, there is also a lot of hip hop out there that speaks in the contrary.

[Crusader]

Yes, I am speaking in a general as well as popular sense. The more popular as well as successful acts of today are in large part are showing a very close-minded and uninspiring part of hip-hop.

[Frosty]

That post is true for most popular hip hop. There are still groups and artists like Immortal Technique, Murs, The Roots, Aesop Rock, Little Brother, Common, Mos, Reks, Devin, etc... that are still putting out good stuff.

Rap is a genre that appeals to people that appreciate wordplay. I don't listen to metal for the lyrical content, as most of it is atrocious. I get my instrumental fix from metal, and other forms of music. I find that on a personal level, rap out of all the genres, SPEAKS to me the most though. There's not an emotion in my body, that I can't attribute a rap song to.

I understand the musical criticism of it, but I find if you just let your guard down, and judge it from a different angle, you can open up to it.

However, the line about it not being a culture is so unbelievably ignorant. The hip hop culture gave people in the inner city something to do other than getting into trouble. Instead of fighting and killing people, people started break dancing battles and freestyle rap battles and cypher groups. There's negatives in the music, but it's inspired ALOT of positive activity and growth within many downtrodden cities and people.

[Aum Shinrikyo]

EDIT: Oh, and I've given rap more chances than I can even count. Shit, practically every year I have an old friend come to visit who makes an attempt to convert me (who is also extremely knowledgeable on the subject). My siblings have tried, my friends in town have tried, hell, I even tried of my own accord a couple of times. I just really really dislike most of it, and the stuff that doesn't actively annoy me is unmoving.

Take off your sunglasses, cut your hair, and learn how to have a good time. SMILE, MOTHERFUCKER.

[Radish]

That post is true for most popular hip hop.

the music that is being complained about is mostly rap

rap is a sub genre of hip-hop and although it's easy to say them both in the same sentence they should not be confused.

I agree that hip-hop that still exists tends to still be cultural and about fun, partying, and the betterment of the community. It takes some digging just like in metal to find the gems.

rap on the other hand is the shit fest that we have all come to loath.

it's really sad that rap artists today are a tenth of the ancestry that they are still claiming to have stemmed from. It's hard to say that you are influenced by a genre of music and that you have cred when you don't write it. It's also ironic that all the rich spoiled white kids and angry slum kids that listen to rap are so infatuated in something that is a lie.

Most rap artists are not artists at all. Their music is written for them by rich people that hide in the background and make a huge percentage of the profits. all the fronting artist does is look tough for the fans.

It also pisses me off that the whole industry has to prop itself up on the fame of itself. Ever notice that not a single artist can make a single song by himself? Everything is always featuring someone who sounds exactly the same but with a different name. It's the rap equivalent of roadrunner united only everybody does it.

[Crusader]

Most rap artists are not artists at all. Their music is written for them by rich people that hide in the background and make a huge percentage of the profits. all the fronting artist does is look tough for the fans.

That goes for a lot of the music industry. See, the musical act, unless they write the music and lyrics themselves make diddly squat off of their cd/lp/digital download sales. The songwriter makes 50% of the profits right off the top ( as well as a percentage of the profits when their lyrics are covered by another artist.). The other 50% goes to the record company.
That 50% that the record company makes then gets filtered down to the record company, and everyone involved in the making of the record (producers, technicians, promoters etc.) And in a lot of cases, the Company gives the artists an advance on the money from projected record sales in order to make the album. So by the time the album is done and everyone who was helping the artist in the studio get paid, the artists themselves are out of money. Now when the album sales don't equal the advance the record company gave them, they now owe the record company money. How do they get that money? they tour. sell merchandise and make more albums. It's really a funny backwards process.

So I mean in most cases, yeah, the artists are just there to give fans something to cheer at. So, there's just some food for thought.

[Aum Shinrikyo]

Eh, you have the right idea, but your understanding of the process is very very wrong.

[Argosax]

says 'fun facts'

the only band I truly hate is Sublime. I hate everything about them.

[oldcrow]

I don't listen to metal for the lyrical content, as most of it is atrocious.

So true. It's unfortunate because for a lot of people the lyrics seem like an the most prominent part of metal.

Take off your sunglasses, cut your hair, and learn how to have a good time. SMILE, MOTHERFUCKER.

What? You're saying bands like Autopsy and Death aren't fun? And, for the record, I have short hair and don't wear sunglasses.

says 'fun facts'

the only band I truly hate is Sublime. I hate everything about them.

You know, it's weird. I didn't start liking Sublime until after I quit smoking pot.

[Humanist Misanthrope]

Take off your sunglasses, cut your hair, and learn how to have a good time. SMILE, MOTHERFUCKER.

What? You're saying bands like Autopsy and Death aren't fun? And, for the record, I have short hair and don't wear sunglasses.

That's your mistake.

[Ben4Evah]

you're doing it wrong